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, a week from now, president obama is going to do his state of the union address, okay? typically the market doesn't respond well when the president talks. then we're going to start to get into some of the nitty-gritty, some of the spending issues. that would be a perfect opportunity for the market to give half of that back. so we've had a 6% rally. why not, you know, reclaim three of that percent over the course of the next few weeks. >> do you feel like we're acting a bit bullish with regard to the markets? i get the feeling it's more buying from kaufton as opposed to selling at this point, right? >> i think that's right. first of all, you've approached a couple of psychological hurdles on the dow and the s&p. we've seen what earnings season is going to give us. we're approaching the sequester cuts on march 1st and there is an increasing belief that they're going to be triggered. and so when you add on to that the fact that payroll taxes went up and the economy is going to be pretty sluggish here in the first half of the year. so i agree with phil that we're probably going to gi
coming at us. we got dodd-frank, which isn't out yet, really. and we got obama care. and obama care, when you look at the complexities in that plan, health care costs are going to go up, they're not going to go down. and you've got temporary workers to deal with. retail has got a hell of a problem. going from 35 hours a week to 30 hours a week for a temporary employee. if you've got 50 employees. you want 49. there's so many complexities in these two things. so my concern about acceleration, is regulatory. warren may have a different view of that. >> interesting thing is i agree with everything jack has said, but it's -- it's i don't come away as pessimistic as he does. but he's absolutely right about, you know, about what's happening with health care, and everything. i don't disagree with a word that he said. that he said. >> and i'm not pessimistic, warren. i'm not pessimistic. i just think we -- we're at a position where we could really take off if we had the right policies. >> yeah. well i -- i -- the interesting thing kind of is that america really is doing better than the rest of th
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